Lions trading QB Matthew Stafford to Rams-two 1's, 3, J.Goff

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Detroit Lions trade Matthew Stafford to Rams for Jared Goff, 2 first-round picks

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This new thread is a continuation of the following thread:

Lions to trade QB Matthew Stafford in 2021 off-season

detroit-lions-forum.proboards.com/thread/892/lions-trade-matthew-stafford-season

This looks like a good trade for the Lions. While the two future 1st Round picks are probably both going to be in the latter half of the Round, it's not going to be easy for the Rams to get to the Super Bowl in the next two seasons. The NFC West is a strong division from top to bottom. Not to mention competition from some other NFC teams. If the Rams don't win a playoff game, the pick in the draft that follows will be between # 19 and # 24. There's probably at least a 45 % chance that the Rams don't get to the 2nd Round of the playoffs in one of the two seasons the Lions have their 1st Round pick in the following draft.

The 3rd Round pick the Lions are receiving from the Rams in the 2021 Draft puts the Lions in a much better position for the 2021 Draft. This is even if the pick is the 2021 3rd Round Compensatory pick the Rams received for the Lions hiring Brad Holmes as GM.

Jared Goff has been trashed by many of late, especially in relationship to his contract. Though Goff hasn't come close to playing up to the contract extension he signed before the start of the 2019 regular season, he's not a bottom tier starting QB. Goff is probably somewhere in the middle tier. At least the Lions should be watchable in the 2021 season. That wouldn't have been the case with Chase Daniel as the Lions starting QB.

Goff gives the Lions draft leverage. If there isn't a QB who warrants pick # 7 in the 2021 Draft, the Lions can either select a higher ranked player or trade down if an opportunity presents itself. The Lions can also trade up for a QB. But Goff being on the roster increases the chances that the Lions don't significantly overpay in trading up for a QB.

Based on what happens in the 2021 season, how to proceed with Jared Goff in the 2022 off-season will be clearer than it's now.

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Report: Matthew Stafford headed to the Rams for Jared Goff, picks

Rams set to go seven straight years without a first-round draft pick

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The lack of a 1st Round pick the next two seasons for the LA Rams is a substantial hurdle for them getting to and winning the Super Bowl. At the very least, I don't think that the Rams will get as far as the NFC Championship game in one of the two seasons. Which would mean, the pick will be no later than #28 in the following draft.

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To the credit of Brad Holmes, he sees the long term value of the LA Rams trade package for Matthew Stafford.

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Matthew Stafford trade grades: Lions land multiple premium picks and Jared Goff, Rams continue unique strategy

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This thread relates to the following thread:

Jared Goff quotes/ info: 2021 season

detroit-lions-forum.proboards.com/thread/904/jared-goff-quotes-info-season

If Jared Goff is on the Lions 2022 Regular Season roster, it's safe to assume it will be at a much lower salary cap number.

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No mention of the New England Patriots, a team that needs a major upgrade at QB, and has Matt Patricia back on Bill Belichick's staff.

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Here are 12 more Patriots-related observations from the Senior Bowl, along with a Matthew Stafford note at the end.


13. While the Patriots have had some level of discussions involving Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford, it doesn’t sound like anything has been serious, likely because of the Lions’ asking price. It’s unclear what the Lions want in return for Stafford, but one league source suggested they severely hurt their negotiating power by publicizing their decision to trade the 2009 draft’s No. 1 pick.

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So much for the one league source. : )

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Broncos tried, but Lions' QB Stafford traded to Rams

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The LA Rams offer that the Lions accepted will probably turn out to be a better offer than pick # 9 in 2021 straight up for Matthew Stafford.

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With or without Jared Goff, the chances of the Lions being a serious Super Bowl contender in the 2021 season are tiny.

The benefits of having Goff in 2021 are the Lions have more draft flexibility, an experienced winning QB who is in the early part of his prime, and if the Lions do draft a QB in the top 2 Rounds ( QB of the future projection ), the Lions can more easily let him learn from the bench as a rookie.

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Excellent point!

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Initial reaction to the Lions trading Matthew Stafford for 2 first-round picks and Jared Goff

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It's hard to predict whether the Lions will trade the LA Rams 1st Round Pick in 2022 this year. Even though Brad Holmes had a key position in the Rams Front Office, he didn't make football decisions. His strategy with 1st Round and other high round picks could end up being vastly different than what Les Snead and Sean McVay used with the Rams.

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This trade shows that Brad Holmes might have a very bright future in Detroit! Unbelievable trade that he was able to pull off! The LA Rams cap troubles is something he would be familiar with coming from LA. The Rams were going to be $25 million over the cap and by trading Goff they would save $12.5 million. That’s how he was able to pull this off. Essentially we got two 1st rounders to take Jared Goff off their hands.

By trading Stafford I was worried about who was going to be our QB. I’m not sold on Justin Fields and he might not even be available at 7. So the only QBs that were FA that I’d consider is Ryan Fitzpatrick or Tyrod Taylor. Jared Goff is better than those two or any other QB on the market! Plus he was be a serviceable “bridge QB” until we find our franchise QB. Or, who knows, maybe he will prove to be our guy since he’s young enough. The good news is we won’t be as horrible next year with him under center.

I would not draft a QB at 7. Dan Campbells press conference showed he’s going to focus more on the defense. We probably should draft a DE or LB at 7 and I think Jeff Okudah will benefit greatly from Aaron Glenn as DC. With the additional picks, Brad Holmes is know for his drafting (which is how you successfully rebuild) so I’m very anxious how the future looks.

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Either the Rams or the Lions can decline to proceed with the Stafford-Goff trade

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The two trades that were nixed were because of timing issues. The deal the Lions and LA Rams made sending Matthew Stafford west was done around 46 days before the trade can be official. Vastly different situation. It's safe to say that the necessary paperwork will get completed.

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Jan 31, 2021 9:41:33 GMT -5 batchrules10 said:

This trade shows that Brad Holmes might have a very bright future in Detroit! Unbelievable trade that he was able to pull off! The LA Rams cap troubles is something he would be familiar with coming from LA. The Rams were going to be $25 million over the cap and by trading Goff they would save $12.5 million. That’s how he was able to pull this off. Essentially we got two 1st rounders to take Jared Goff off their hands.

By trading Stafford I was worried about who was going to be our QB. I’m not sold on Justin Fields and he might not even be available at 7. So the only QBs that were FA that I’d consider is Ryan Fitzpatrick or Tyrod Taylor. Jared Goff is better than those two or any other QB on the market! Plus he was be a serviceable “bridge QB” until we find our franchise QB. Or, who knows, maybe he will prove to be our guy since he’s young enough. The good news is we won’t be as horrible next year with him under center.

I would not draft a QB at 7. Dan Campbells press conference showed he’s going to focus more on the defense. We probably should draft a DE or LB at 7 and I think Jeff Okudah will benefit greatly from Aaron Glenn as DC. With the additional picks, Brad Holmes is know for his drafting (which is how you successfully rebuild) so I’m very anxious how the future looks.

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Batchrules, I definitely agree that Brad Holmes might have a very bright future and that Jared Goff is a better option than Tyrod Taylor and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Both of them have bounced around the NFL, as other teams sleeked upgrades. Goff played in a Super Bowl, this season led the LA Rams to a playoff berth, and helped them secure a first round playoff win at Seattle.

I'm comfortable if the Lions draft a QB with pick # 7 or in a trade up, if the value is reflected on the Lions draft board. And in the case of a trade up, that the Lions don't significant overpay in draft compensation.

The prospect of Aaron Glenn, with his accomplished CB and coaching DB background, working with Jeff Okudah, is exciting.

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Report: Matthew Stafford nixed any trade to New England

Report: Matthew Stafford was willing to go anywhere but New England

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This isn't surprising.

IHMO, there was one reason why Matthew Stafford didn't want to play for New England:

The ramifications of Matt Patricia and the 'Patriot Way' continue for the Lions!

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After doing Barry & Calvin wrong, Detroit Lions were right to grant Matthew Stafford's wish

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How the Lions handled the Matthew Stafford situation could prove beneficial in the new regime attracting Free Agents from other teams.