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Post by D6 on Jan 1, 2021 1:23:21 GMT -5
Lions could see big drop in draft order with win over Vikings
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Even if the Lions lose to the Vikings, it's possible the Lions could fall back to the pick # 8. If the Lions lose, it would benefit the Lions if Houston, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, and the NY Giants win their respective games.
A Lions win against the Vikings would probably drop the Lions back a few spots. But not likely as far down as pick #13. If the Lions win, it would benefit the Lions if Carolina, Denver, and the LA Chargers, win their respective games. The Dallas-NY Giants would be of importance to the Lions but it's not clear ( at least to me ) which would be a better outcome for the Lions.
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Post by D6 on Jan 1, 2021 13:00:51 GMT -5
The Detroit Lions aren’t tanking in season finale
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From a Lions fan perspective, I will root for the Lions to win the game against the Vikings with conflicting emotions. The Lions have a 6 game losing streak against the Vikings, a team the Lions have a horrible overall track record against in the combined 51 seasons I have been a Lions fan. Any win over the Vikings, Packers, and Bears has added value. It wasn't that long ago that the Lions had a 9 game losing streak against NFC North opponents.
Once a player is on the field, it would be dangerous for a player not to give his best. One should assume the opposition is going full speed.
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Post by frenchylions on Jan 1, 2021 13:34:33 GMT -5
I don't believe in this "tanking" strategy, I believe in an efficient player picking, management and development strategy.
It's more important to build a winning culture than gain 1 spot in the draft.
As you say, a victory against a divisional rival has added value for the stats and history books but also for pride and ego.
Resting some players, yes ... tanking, no !
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Post by D6 on Jan 1, 2021 13:48:46 GMT -5
Well said, Frenchy.
Even a net gain of a few spots in the draft doesn't have the value of building a winning culture in most cases. Regardless of the outcome of the game against the Vikings, Trevor Lawrence will be long gone in the draft ( assuming he declares ) by the time the Lions are on the clock. After Lawrence, there likely won't be a consensus.
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Post by frenchylions on Jan 1, 2021 14:23:02 GMT -5
Even then, since 2000, Eli Manning is the only quarterback of the 25 who have been drafted in the top five to lead his team to a Super Bowl win as a starter.
So 4 percent of the passers who have been top-five draft picks during the last two decades have led their team to a championship.
Matthew Stafford was certainly a good draft choice in 2009 but he has never been surrounded by teammates capable of winning a SB anyway.
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Post by D6 on Jan 2, 2021 18:39:16 GMT -5
Frenchy, excellent information!
Even if Peyton Manning ( pick # 1 in 1998 ), Eli's older brother, is included in the data, the % would still be very low.
Patrick Mahomes ( pick # 10 in 2017 and Ben Roethlisberger ( pick # 11 in 2004 ) come to mind as the closest selections to the top 5 of a draft since 2000 that won one or more Super Bowls in the last 20 seasons.
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