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Post by D6 on Aug 16, 2019 18:20:40 GMT -5
Detroit Lions 53-man roster projection 1.0 ……...………...
If Josh Johnson is at least decent in the pre-season games, I think he will be on the opening day 53 man roster. With Tom Savage going on short term I.R..
I agree with the RBs listed surviving the cutdown to 53.
The WRs are hard to predict beyond the top 3. Brandon Powell's playmaking ability will be difficult to let go.
Isaac Nauta appears at this time to be at or very close to 50-50 regarding surviving the cutdown to 53.
Other than the first 5 listed, no Offensive Lineman has a secured roster spot for opening day. Tyrell Crosby could be a short term I.R. candidate.
It's possible that Austin Bryant and to a lesser extent Da'Shawn Hand, are short term I.R. candidates.
Kevin Strong, P.J. Johnson, and John Atkins have a realistic shot at a roster. Mitchell Loewen as well, even more so if a DE lands on short term I.R.
Someone will have to step up to win a 7th LB spot or be the 6th LB in a 6 LB unit.
Charles Washington is too valuable on Special Teams to let go. Jamal Agnew has too much playmaking and versatility to let go.
Teez Tabor, Tavon Wilson, and Andrew Adams could easily be battling for 2 roster spots.
Sam Martin is favorite to remain as Punter / Holder. But I don't think he's not a lock.
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Post by D6 on Aug 19, 2019 13:23:03 GMT -5
Detroit Lions 53-man roster projection 2.0
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I give the edge to Josh Johnson for the Lions # 2 QB position. However, plenty can happen in the next 10 days. If Tom Savage isn't back for at least one of the remaining two pre-season games, I don't think he's going to be on tbe Lions 53 man opening day roster.
I agree with the RB assessment.
Tbe WR spots beyond the top 3 remain very much up in the air. I still believe tbe Lions value Brandon Powell's diverse playmaking ability skills.
Isaac Nauta committed a holding penalty on a running play and dropped a pass on the Lions 2nd to last drive, in the pre-season game in Houston. His stock likely dropped to some extent. He's probably right around the 50-50 mark in terms of surviving the cutdown to 53.
These realistically could be the 8 that are on the Lions roster when the Lions get down to 53 players. However, the health of Tyrell Crosby, the contract of Kenny Wiggins, and Oday Aboushi looking like a liability, could easily lead to one or more of them not being on the Lions opening day roster.
The Lions might be trying to keep Ryan Pope off the radar screen of other NFL organizations. With the hope he clears waivers and agrees to sign a Practice Squad contract with the Lions.
Mitchell Loewen appeared to have performed better in Houston on Saturday Night than Kevin Strong did. I think it's close between the two if the Lions go with 8 Defensive Lineman when getting down to 53.
The 6 listed LBs all collectively look like they will survive the cutdown to 53. Malik Carney showed promise in the pre-season game at Houston, especially against the run. Carney is someone worth keeping an eye on in the final 2 pre-season games.
The Lions will probably keep at least 11 DBs. Teez Tabor, Dee Virgin, Tavon Wilson, and Andrew Adams all are likely battling for roster spots. Mike Ford's stock has dropped in the two combined pre-season games. He needs to rebound in a major way ( s ) in the final pre-season games to get back in the roster decision mix. Jamar Summers looks like he has potential, based on the pre-season game in Houston. Summers probably will have to go the P.S. route. But he could make things interesting if he builds off Saturday Night.
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Post by D6 on Aug 26, 2019 11:53:40 GMT -5
Detroit Lions 53-man roster projection 3.0
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I agree with the QB and RB assessments.
Right now, Chris Lacy is my prediction for the Lions # 4 WR role. Beyond, Lacy, who isn't a roster lock, I lean towards Travis Fulgham, mainly because he was a 6th Round pick this year. Brandon Powell needs a strong week of practice, to move higher up in the pecking order in the pre-season finale at Cleveland.
Isaac Nauta hasn't been consistent in the pre-season. I think he's about 50-50 to survive the cut to 53.
Tyrell Crosby could be an IR candidate, before or after ( Short IR ) the cutdown to 53.
Kenny Wiggins likely will be on the Lions roster even if he begins the season as a backup because of his versatility and has outperformed the Lions other backup Offensive Lineman.
It wouldn't surprise me if there are 2 Offensive Lineman currently not on the Lions roster that are on the Lions roster either opening day or soon after.
Austin Bryant likely lands on a version of IR.
Mitchell Loewen is on a path to be on the Lions opening day 53 man roster. Kevin Strong probably is around 50-50 at this time, to survive the cutdown to 53.
With Steve Longa coming off the PUP today ( after the article was written ), Miles Killebrew at the bottom of the LB pecking order vs. Buffalo, and Malik Carney showing some potential, plenty is undecided at LB going into this week's practices and pre-season game at Cleveland.
The Lions DB situation looks unsettled beyond the same 10 DBs ( 5 CBs and 5 Safeties that I previously projected to survive the cut to 53. ).
Andrew Adams appears in trouble because he has struggled tackling.
The Specialists are set, barring something unexpected.
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Post by D6 on Aug 27, 2019 12:48:03 GMT -5
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Post by D6 on Aug 27, 2019 14:42:50 GMT -5
'Critical' week for these 5 players on Detroit Lions' roster bubble
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Teez Tabor and Dee Virgin could end up being on the Lions opening day 53 man roster. Virgin's value on Special Teams might be too much for the Lions to release him. The list of players that get released by other teams easily could factor in heavily with Tabor, Virgin, and many other players currently on the Lions 90 man roster.
Kevin Strong is the other Lions 2019 UDRFA who has a realistic chance of at least surviving the cutdown to 53 players. Malik Carney has a shot as well
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Post by D6 on Aug 29, 2019 1:37:11 GMT -5
Detroit Lions' 53-man roster prediction: Tough decisions on defense await
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The battle for the # 2 QB spot seems very close going into the final pre-season game.
Mark Thompson needs a Tion Green like final pre-season game performance to substantially help his cause in at least surviving the cutdown to 53.
I think this combination of 5 WRs is the most likely outcome to get to 53.
Isaac Nauta still seems like a 50-50 decision.
After the projected 5 starters when they are relatively healthy, Tyrell Crosby, and Kenny Wiggins, the final pre-season game will go a long way in determining what happens next.
P.J. Johnson probably has more upside potential than Kevin Strong. Because Strong looks more ready to contribute early in the season and with injury concerns in the Defensive Line interior, I think Strong has the edge over Johnson to survive the cut to 53.
IMHO, Malik Carney has the edge over Anthony Pittman and Garret Dooley if any of the 3 survive the cutdown.
Regarding the DBs and Specialists, my thoughts remain the same from the earlier this week.
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Post by D6 on Aug 29, 2019 13:35:13 GMT -5
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Post by D6 on Aug 29, 2019 18:46:32 GMT -5
The following is my annual Lions percentage chances of players surviving the cutdown to 53 players. Some players that would be 100 % if relatively healthy aren't because of the possibility of them ending up on season ending IR. This list is before I begin watching the final Lions 2019 pre-season game ( at Cleveland ). A list sometime on Friday is planned after absorbing what occurred in the game:
QB
1. Matthew Stafford 100% 2. Josh Johnson 50 % 3. Tom Savage 50% 4. Luis Perez 2 %
RB
1. Kerryon Johnson 100 % 2. C.J.Anderson 100 % 3. Ty Johnson 98 % 4. Mark Thompson 44 % 5. Justin Stockton 7 % 6. James Williams 1 %
RB
1. Nick Bawden 100 %
WR
1. Kenny Golladay 100 % 2. Marvin Jones 100.% 3. Danny Amendola 100 % 4. Chris Lacy 57 % 5. Travis Fulgram 56 % 6. Andy Jones 47 % 7. Brandon Powell 46 % 8. Tom Kennedy 45 % 9. TommyleeLewis 45 % * 10 Jonathan Duhart 32 % 11 Jordan Lasley 30 %
TE.
1. T.J. Hockenson 100 % 2. Jesse James 98 % 3. Logan Thomas 70 % 4. Isaac Nauta 50 % 5. Jerome Cunningham 25 % 6. Austin Traylor 10 %
Offensive Lineman
1. Taylor Decker 100 % 2. Frank Ragnow 100 % 3. Rick Wagner 99 % 4. Graham Glasgow 99 % 5. Joe Dahl 99 % 6. Tyrell Crosby 93 % 7. Kenny Wiggins 87 % 8. Oday Oboushi 53 % 9. Beau Benzschawel 51 % 10.Andrew Donnal 48 % 11.Luke Bowanko 46 % 12.Leo Koloamatangi 34 % 13.Micah St.Andrew 31 % 14.Ryan Pope 25 % 15.Matt Nelson 10 %
Defensive Lineman
1. Trey Flowers 100 % 2. Damon Harrison 100 % 3. Mike Daniels 100 % 4. Romeo Okwara 99 % 5. A'Shawn Robinson 98 % 6. Da'Shawn Hand 95 % 7. Austin Bryant 60 % 8. Mitchell Loewen 58 % 9. Kevin Strong 51 % 10.P.J.Johnson 48 % 11. Eric Lee 46% 12 Jonathan Wynn 40 % 13. John Atkins 35 % 14. Fred Jones 31 % 15. Ray Smith 2 %
LB
1. Devon Kennard 100 % 2. Jahlani Tavai 100 % 3. Jarrad Davis 99 % 4. Christian Jones 98 % 5. Jalen Reeves-Maybin 95 % 6. Miles Killebrew 59 % 7. Steve Longa 54 % 8. Malik Carney 46 % 9. Anthony Pittman 29 % 10 Garret Dooley 25 %
DB
1. Darius Slay 100 % 2. Justin Coleman 100 % 3. Quandre Diggs 100 % 4. Tracy Walker 100 % 5. Will Harris 100 % 6. Rasheen Melvin 98 % 7. Amani Oruwariye 98 8 8. Jamal Agnew 81 % 9.Charles Washington 75 % 10.Tavon Wilson 52 % 11.Teez Tabor 51 % 12.Dee Virgin 48 % 13.Andrew Adams 48 % 14.CJ Moore 47 % 15.Mike Ford 44 % 16.Jamar Summers 21 % 17.Andrew Chachere 10 % 18.Johnathan Alston 9 %
Specialists
1. Matt Prater 100 % 2. Don Muhlbach 100 % 3. Sam Martin 85 % 4. Ryan Santaso 15 %
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Post by D6 on Aug 30, 2019 6:18:09 GMT -5
Final Detroit Lions 53-man roster projection
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This thread relates to the following thread:
Browns 20, Lions 16: Pre-season Game # 4 : ( 2019 )
detroit-lions-forum.proboards.com/thread/355/browns-lions-season-game-2019
The full body of work also includes another concussion for Tom Savage. That ended up keeping him out the next two weeks.
Ty Johnson and Nick Bawden didn't play at Cleveland. They now look like locks to survive the cutdown to 53.
If Andy Jones is relatively healthy, he will very likely survive the cutdown to 53.
It's realistically possible the Lions keep 6 WRs at least through the cutdown.
Isaac Nauta probably now has a little better than a 50-50 chance to survive the cut to 53.
I think the Lions will go with the first 8 Offensive Lineman listed when getting down to 53. Beau Benzschawel has a realistic shot but this game likely hurts his chances to at least some extent.
Based on when the Defensive Lineman were in the Browns game and Kevin Strong having a good all around performance, I think he survives the cut to 53. P.J. Johnson helped his own cause in this game. His high upside potential could ( less likely than not. ) keep him on the roster over Strong.
I think either Eric Lee or Mitchell Loewen will be on the Lions 53 man opening day roster. Austin Bryant probably lands on a version of IR.
This likely will be how the Lions proceed at LB. If Malik Carney is released, I hope he clears waivers and is on the P.S.. Carney's upside is apparent.
Dee Virgin's chances of surviving the cut appear to have increased greatly.
Charles Washington probably will beat Andrew Adams out for a roster spot. Yet being that Washington even played in this game, let alone in the 2nd half, his chances of surviving the cutdown to 53 have dropped considerably.
I think the most likely outcome is Teez Tabor isn't on the opening day roster.
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Post by D6 on Aug 30, 2019 7:43:13 GMT -5
The following is my annual Lions percentage chances of players surviving the cutdown to 53 players. Some players that would be 100 % if relatively healthy aren't because of the possibility of them ending up on season ending IR. This list is after the final Lions 2019 pre-season game ( at Cleveland ).
QB
1. Matthew Stafford 100% 2. Tom Savage 51% 3. Josh Johnson 49 % 4. Luis Perez 2 %
RB
1. Kerryon Johnson 100 % 2. C.J.Anderson 100 % 3. Ty Johnson 100 % 4. Mark Thompson 47 % 5. Justin Stockton 7 % 6. James Williams 1 %
RB
1. Nick Bawden 100 %
WR
1. Kenny Golladay 100 % 2. Marvin Jones 100.% 3. Danny Amendola 100 % 4. Travis Fulgram 60 % 5. Andy Jones 55 % 6. Chris Lacy 51 % 7. Brandon Powell 48 % 8. Tom Kennedy 45 % 9. TommyleeLewis 38 % * 10 Jonathan Duhart 32 % 11 Jordan Lasley 30 %
TE.
1. T.J. Hockenson 100 % 2. Jesse James 98 % 3. Logan Thomas 95 % 4. Isaac Nauta 51 % 5. Jerome Cunningham 25 % 6. Austin Traylor 10 %
Offensive Lineman
1. Taylor Decker 100 % 2. Frank Ragnow 100 % 3. Rick Wagner 99 % 4. Graham Glasgow 100 % 5. Joe Dahl 100 % 6. Kenny Wiggins 87 % 7. Tyrell Crosby 85 % 8. Oday Oboushi 79 % 9. Beau Benzschawel 49 % 10.Andrew Donnal 48 % 11.Luke Bowanko 37 % 12.Micah St.Andrew 23 % 13.Ryan Pope 18 % 14.Leo Koloamatangi 34 % 15.Matt Nelson 10 %
Defensive Lineman
1. Trey Flowers 100 % 2. Damon Harrison 100 % 3. Mike Daniels 100 % 4. Romeo Okwara 100 % 5. A'Shawn Robinson 100 % 6. Da'Shawn Hand 95 % 7. Austin Bryant 60 % 8 Kevin Strong 52 % 9. Eric Lee 49 % 10. Mitchell Loewen 49 % 11. P.J.Johnson 48 % 12 Jonathan Wynn 40 % 13. John Atkins 35 % 14. Fred Jones 31 % 15. Ray Smith 2 %
LB
1. Devon Kennard 100 % 2. Jahlani Tavai 100 % 3. Jarrad Davis 99 % 4. Christian Jones 98 % 5. Jalen Reeves-Maybin 95 % 6. Miles Killebrew 79 % 7. Steve Longa 54 % 8. Malik Carney 46 % 9 Garret Dooley 37 % 10. Anthony Pittman 29 %
DB
1. Darius Slay 100 % 2. Justin Coleman 100 % 3. Quandre Diggs 100 % 4. Tracy Walker 100 % 5. Will Harris 100 % 6. Rasheen Melvin 98 % 7. Amani Oruwariye 98 % 8.Jamal Agnew 95 % 9.Tavon Wilson 83 % 10.Dee Virgin 70 % 11.Charles Washington 52 % 12.Teez Tabor 48 % 13.CJ Moore 47 % 14.Mike Ford 44 % 15.Andrew Adams 42 % 16.Jamar Summers 24 % 17.Andrew Chachere 10 % 18.Johnathan Alston 9 %
Specialists
1. Matt Prater 100 % 2. Don Muhlbach 100 % 3. Sam Martin 85 % 4. Ryan Santaso 15 %
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